Comments on: Negatives of Long Pastorates http://schuller.id.au/2009/08/18/negatives-of-long-pastorates/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=negatives-of-long-pastorates Mon, 07 May 2012 00:40:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: wayne http://schuller.id.au/2009/08/18/negatives-of-long-pastorates/comment-page-1/#comment-132 wayne Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:16:05 +0000 http://schuller.id.au/?p=857#comment-132 Thanks for the comments gentlemen. Good examples Chris. Thanks for the comments gentlemen. Good examples Chris.

]]> By: Luke http://schuller.id.au/2009/08/18/negatives-of-long-pastorates/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Luke Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:28:12 +0000 http://schuller.id.au/?p=857#comment-131 Good series Wayne. (I like your reasons for a long pastorate by the way.) I think most of these are bad reasons but some are good and we need to think how to overcome them: <i> * the pastor may run out of spiritual insight or spiritual energy over the long haul</i> <i>* the church may stagnate and won’t change under the pastor who won’t change (’we tried that n years ago, didn’t work’)</i> There is some truth here, as you get used to a place you develop blind spots someone new will be able to see. <i>* it makes it hard for the next pastor to follow in the footsteps of such a long ministry</i> <i>* it is unfair for people to be ’stuck’ with one pastor for so long</i> <i>* people need a diversity of pastors to learn new or different things</i> <i> * the people are transient and will move around anyway</i> <i>* long ministry may tend to be more inward looking rather than evangelistic</i> This can be true in that someone builds up a reputation based on their long standing association with the church and reputations, good or bad can be spirtually harmful. Good series Wayne.

(I like your reasons for a long pastorate by the way.)

I think most of these are bad reasons but some are good and we need to think how to overcome them:
* the pastor may run out of spiritual insight or spiritual energy over the long haul
* the church may stagnate and won’t change under the pastor who won’t change (’we tried that n years ago, didn’t work’)
There is some truth here, as you get used to a place you develop blind spots someone new will be able to see.
* it makes it hard for the next pastor to follow in the footsteps of such a long ministry
* it is unfair for people to be ’stuck’ with one pastor for so long
* people need a diversity of pastors to learn new or different things
* the people are transient and will move around anyway
* long ministry may tend to be more inward looking rather than evangelistic
This can be true in that someone builds up a reputation based on their long standing association with the church and reputations, good or bad can be spirtually harmful.

]]> By: casperchris http://schuller.id.au/2009/08/18/negatives-of-long-pastorates/comment-page-1/#comment-130 casperchris Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:53:20 +0000 http://schuller.id.au/?p=857#comment-130 I think nearly all those are disproved by a quick look around Melbourne. St Judes, St Hillarys, HTD are all where they are today because of long (10+ year) stays as vicars. Same goes with most large sized youth ministry (they've had a long serving Youth Minister) Even in Hobart, the biggest (and still one of the biggest) Anglican Churches there for a while was St Clements that had a 30+ year vicar. Long is the way to go. Although some people probably can stay too long. All depends on context. I think nearly all those are disproved by a quick look around Melbourne.

St Judes, St Hillarys, HTD are all where they are today because of long (10+ year) stays as vicars.

Same goes with most large sized youth ministry (they’ve had a long serving Youth Minister)

Even in Hobart, the biggest (and still one of the biggest) Anglican Churches there for a while was St Clements that had a 30+ year vicar.

Long is the way to go. Although some people probably can stay too long. All depends on context.

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